Jun 2015 QRP/CW mW Sprint
Since there is no cross-checking of logs for our mW or 160M sprints, the results are now final as of the submission deadline of 2400Z Sunday June 21. We wound up with 81 logs, just 4 short of our record for a mW sprint.
SWA - STRAIGHT KEY CATEGORY Call QSOs Mbrs Pts Mul Sco Bon Final 80-40-20 Antenna W1 Division KN1H 21 21 42 11 462 x2 924 End Fed Wire @50' KB1PBA 16 16 32 10 320 x2 640 67'dblt@28' N1IMW 17 16 33 9 297 x2 594 dipole at 20 feet K1IEE 3 3 6 3 18 x2 36 OCF long wire@30' $KJ1J 4 4 8 4 32 x2 64 dipole@15' W2 Division W2SH 37 37 74 19 1406 x2 2812 270' dpl@45' KA2KGP 26 25 51 13 663 x2 1326 Dipole up 25 ft. K2ZC 21 21 42 11 462 x2 924 40m dipole up 25' W2JEK 12 12 24 7 168 x2 336 20m gp, 40m end fed both up 20 ft AA2VG 6 6 12 5 60 x2 120 carolina windom 10-80 m @45' WA2NYY 2 2 4 2 8 x2 16 80m OCF dipole at 35' W3 Division N3HEE 31 31 62 14 868 x2 1736 40 meter dipole up 30 feet KD3CA 17 17 34 11 374 x2 748 132 ft Windom @33 ft AF3Z 18 18 36 9 324 x2 648 80-40-20 fan dpl @ 15' KQ3Z 13 12 25 8 200 x2 400 135' doublet @ 35 ft W4 Division N4SX 16 16 32 13 416 x2 832 W5GI Mystery Antenna 38' WG8Y 17 17 34 9 306 x2 612 HB 20m delta lp & 40m DP @35ft K4KRW 17 14 31 9 279 x2 558 dipole@25' K4JPN 10 9 19 8 152 x2 304 Zepp W4DUK 10 10 20 7 140 x2 280 End-fed Zepp at 20' KA8VZB 5 5 10 5 50 x2 100 60' End Fed Wire @ 20' N4FI 6 6 12 4 48 x2 96 attic G5RV jr NA4O 5 5 10 4 40 x2 80 dpl@45' KG4MTN 1 1 2 1 2 x2 4 40M OCF at 15 ft W5 Division W5TVW 12 12 24 12 288 x2 576 80 meter full wave loop at 20 feet W5WIL 5 5 10 5 50 x2 100 240' doublet @ 30' KA5TJS 1 1 2 1 2 x2 4 80 mtr dipole @ 30ft KE5YUM 0 0 0 0 0 x2 0 inverted v at 30' W6 Division WK6L 7 6 13 4 52 x2 104 Windom(Inverted Vee), 35ft 40M/20M NS3C 3 3 6 2 12 x2 24 dpl@20' W7 Division KF7WNS 12 12 24 8 192 x2 384 3 Wave Length 20M Long Wire @ 45' K9JWV 7 7 14 6 84 x2 168 36' vertical with 16 elevated radials KF7Z 6 6 12 6 72 x2 144 dpl@ 25' KC7DM 2 2 4 2 8 x2 16 135' dpl @ 65' WB7EUX 1 1 2 1 2 x2 4 gnd mtd vert 43' K7EW 1 1 2 1 2 x2 4 vert gnd mtd + 2 radials W8 Division N8XMS 15 15 30 8 240 x2 480 R7 Vertical K8AG 12 12 24 9 216 x2 432 ZS6BKW up about 35 feet NF8M 8 8 16 7 112 x2 224 80m OCF dpl @35ft/short vertical 40m rx K8RJW 7 7 14 6 84 x2 168 6BTV @ 15' WB8LZG 7 7 14 5 70 x2 140 dpl@ 30' WB8ENE 1 1 2 1 2 x2 4 132' doublet @ 15' W3HI 1 1 2 1 2 x2 4 80m horiz. loop @ 25 ft W9 Division W9CC 19 19 38 9 342 x2 684 6btv AA9L 16 15 31 11 341 x2 682 trap dipole @ 50' K9EYT 9 9 18 3 54 x2 108 G5RV at 25FT1 W0 Division K0ALN 10 10 20 8 160 x2 320 invV@35' N0WKZ 4 4 8 4 32 x2 64 20M End Fed - Sloper on Pic Nic Table K0FNR 1 1 2 1 2 x2 4 resonate-feedline vert dipole--end 5' up WD0K 1 1 2 1 2 x2 4 delta loop @ 30' Canada Division VE2TH 26 24 50 11 550 x2 1100 INV VEE @ 32FT VE3FUJ 6 6 12 5 60 x2 120 G5RV @ 50' VE3EDX 5 5 10 5 50 x2 100 Gnd Mtd Vertical DX Division SWA - BUG CATEGORY Call QSOs Mbrs Pts Mul Sco Bon Final 80-40-20 Antenna W1 Division W2 Division W3 Division K3WWP 4 4 8 3 24 x1.5 36 attic dpl (20), ~110' attic rnd wire W4 Division W5 Division WI5H 10 10 20 8 160 x1.5 240 13' x 32' loop top @ 21' W6 Division W7 Division AL7JK 1 1 2 1 2 x1.5 3 dpl@25' W8 Division AB8FJ 4 4 8 3 24 x1.5 36 Inverted L W9 Division W9ILF 5 5 10 4 40 x1.5 60 gnd mtd vert W0 Division Canada Division DX Division SWA - KEYER/KEYBOARD CATEGORY Call QSOs Mbrs Pts Mul Sco Bon Final 80-40-20 Antenna W1 Division K1QO 28 27 55 14 770 770 OCF dpl @30' K4RHG 8 8 16 7 112 112 Sloping end-fed dpl @ 30' N1JI 6 6 12 5 60 60 88' doublet @ 25' W2 Division WA1GWH 21 21 42 12 504 504 40M dipole @ 15 ft N2ESE 11 11 22 9 198 198 ocf Dipole@25ft. WB2PEF 12 12 24 8 192 192 dipole 30 ' KC2MJT 2 2 4 2 8 8 dpl sloper 20' to 10' $K2YGM 16 16 32 9 288 288 40-G5RV MINI,, 80-PAR ENDFEDZ W3 Division KB3AAG 32 32 64 17 1088 1088 vertical loop top at 30 ft N8XEE 17 17 34 12 408 408 40M Doublet @ 40' K3RLL 10 10 20 9 180 180 G5RVjr W4 Division KK4UGD 1 1 2 1 2 2 single wire $AB4QL 3 3 6 3 18 18 gnd mtd vert, W5 Division N5GW 26 26 52 15 780 780 CFZ @ 50' W6 Division KR5RR 10 10 20 8 160 160 44' Doublet open wire, 35' high W7 Division W8 Division N8ZYA 1 1 2 1 2 2 Indoor 50' random wire W9 Division W0 Division NO2D 1 1 2 1 2 2 40 M dipole @ 25 ft. Canada Division VE6BIR 12 12 24 8 192 192 Gnd mtd Vertical, 80m dipole @ 30' DX Division GAIN ANTENNA CATEGORY Call QSOs Mbrs Pts Mul Sco Bon Final 80-40-20 Antenna Straight Key NQ2W 22 22 44 13 572 x2 1144 Mini beam @25', inv V @40' $K4BAI 39 38 77 21 1617 x2 3234 TH6DXX at 55'; 40M dip at 40'. $K9VD 1 1 2 1 2 x2 4 6 ele 20m mono band @ 20' Bug Keyer/Keyboard N1IX 40 40 80 22 1760 1760 3 el yagi@70' G3RSP 8 8 16 8 128 128 3 Element Beam up 40ft Not eligible for certificate or prize for the following reason(s): @ Non-member $ QRO power ! Late log ~ Submitted as check log
KN1H - Great to hear so many milliwatters on! Used IC-7200 at 900mw output and Nye Viking Master Key.
K1QO - Well this was pretty cool..as far east as England,(G3RSP) as far west as CO (K0ALN)and well into the south to LA,(W5TVW) MS (regular N5GW) and GA (that amazing K4BAI, NA4O,K4GPN, N4SX) with 900mW on an OCF dipole, I'm pretty excited about last night :) Called cq most of the time with only a little s & ping on 40M...I shouldn't have spent as much time as I did on 80 but I managed to pull out a couple NY's, a NJ (W2SH) and of course neighbor Dave. Many thanks to G3RSP for your patience!! 72/88 de Ann
N1IMW - Solid number of ops on the air for milliwatt work! Great to hear everyone. NAQCC members deliver a quality sprint experience! Thanks everyone.
K4RHG - This was my first milliwatt sprint. I was running 500 milliwatts, one-tenth my normal five watts. My first QSO was my farthest, N0WKZ in Kansas. That's 1,301 miles -- 2,600 miles a watt. Pretty amazing. I found 40m working much better than 20m last night.
K1IEE - Heard very few weak signals on 40M, tried calling but now returns. Went to 20M and heard a few strong signals but it did not last. After the first hour bands seemed to just fade away. Been awhile since I worked Don K3RLL. Thanks to all 73 Dick
W2SH - G3RSP surprised me when my 650 milliWatts brought his reply to my first 20m CQ. Signals there were already weak with severe QSB, and the band closed fairly soon thereafter. Both signal levels and activity were strong on 40m, and I finished off the sprint with three 80m QSOs. Used a TenTec 539 and Junker key.
KA2KGP - Nice band conditions on 20 & 40m. but 80m. was hi QRN here in WNY. Good NAQCC turnout for this MW sprint. 73
K2ZC - Lots of QRN.Also QRM. But better results than expected. Tnx to all for the qso's. 72, Dave
WA1GWH - Wow, nice to see so many milliWatters in there! Didn't know I had so much company. I do most sprints at 900 mW with my SW-40+. 72, Garry
W2JEK - Used my OAK HILLS OHR-500 at 900 mw with Bunnell key and Idiom Press SCAF audio filter. Lots of activity and lots of fun. Only one qso on 20 and the rest on 40. Earlier this afternoon the bands were dead possibly due to a solar flare. 72 and 73 Don Younger W2JEK #1135
K2YGM - JUST S&P TONIGHT, USING THE KEYER AND GIVING OUT POINTS CAN USE MY LOG AS CHECK LOG 72 BOB
N2ESE - N2ESE Only worked first hour.Used my FT-817 with battery.20 and 40 were good!Tnx to all 73 Gary #5555
WB2PEF - Just cranked the K2 down to 0.9 watts and searched for stations calling CQ. Band was very good. Had fun.
AA2VG - Could not stay long but always a thrill using less than one watt and going from Long Island NY to California. 72 es tnx for working me. Peter AA2VG
WA2NYY - Could only get on the last 15 minutes. Squeaked out 2 QSOs on 40. Didnt hear too many signals. Wasnt on long enough to know what conditions were like. BUT, I got the log in! - Mark
KC2MJT - Finally worked my wife's hometown , Manlius, NY. Tnx Garry WA1GWH. Nice it was mw and with the NAQCC. Short but fun evening.
N3HEE - Lots of fun with only 500mw. Didn't hear anyone on 80 meters tonight? K3 @ 500 mW with dipole at 30 feet. Home brew straight key. Thanks for the Q's ! 72 -Joe
KB3AAG - Nice evening. I ran 500 mils and feel did very well. All contacts were in reply to my CQs so I must have been heard ok. I did ignore two station that were running way above 12wpm, had no problem copying them but this is a slow speed sprint! All on 40 mtr. Thanks to all for a great time! Frank
AF3Z - Lots of fun with 500 mw from my Omni VI, according to my QRPOMETER. Conditions seemed quite good on 40m. Thanks to all for a good evening! 72
N8XEE - My first mW sprint - WOW!!!! Challenging and exciting! Amazing what so little power can do, despite the QRN. My apologies to K4BAI - sorry John, I just couldn't pull you out of the noise, but I knew it was you!! I listened for my friends K3WWP and AB3RU, but I didn't hear either of you guys tonight. This was also my first straight key sprint. I started out at about 17WPM, but by the end of the session about 10WPM was all I could handle ;-) Too much fun!!!
KQ3Z - Really had to work to make contacts. Still lots of fun. Thanks for the contacts. Sorry for the ones I couldn't copy. Thanks to all who make these Sprints happen.
K3RLL - Nice to be back in the lush green hills of rural PA with an OUTSIDE ANTENNA! What a difference a little piece of wire can make to this great facet of our hobby. Band conditions seemed pretty good. Most signals seemed stronger on this mW Sprint from here than they do at the full 5 watts back in FL. I love it! Thanks for the contacts and in particular to Alan in England. You made the evening - twice in a row, Alan. 72 ... Don
K3WWP - I was torn between a six meter opening and the sprint. Six meters won out. I quit the sprint after 4 QSOs, and stuck with six. With a simple six meter dipole in the attic, I don't get to take advantage of many six meter openings. Anyway with 5 watts I try for 20 sprint QSOs in our regular sprints, so at just under 1 watt, I guess 4 QSOs is appropriate for the mW sprint tonight. HI Thanks to you guys who gave me the four QSOs.
N4SX - I didn't get to operate full time tonight due to several interruptions. I know.....that is unacceptable right? Still had fun though........love these MW contest. Ran just under 500mw and G3RSP was the first station worked tonight, and got N0TA too which were my two most distant stations. And hey Ann K1QO was in my log too. Hope you guys enjoyed it all as much as I did. Randy N4SX
WG8Y - Hi all,Was 20 min late starting.First call heard,K4BAI, with great signal.Good start but it got better. Tuned up the band a bit and heard G3RSP was CQing with a solid 559 to me. Made the qso after a couple repeats by me.Would like to know his exact power was as that was pretty cool at 1/2 watt on my end.Only worked 6 q's on 20m then went to 40 & braved the QRN.Hi Hi. Good tune up for Field Day.Gonna be in NE Ohio with my old gand.Hope everyone had fun & C.U. all on FD weekend. 72 from N.C. Mark WG8Y
K4KRW - I decided to run half a watt tonight. Conditions were much better for me than the regular June sprint. I must have been getting out pretty well. I had 3 non members come back to me. Most of the signals I heard were 549 or better. I had a couple of 339s including one where I had to use everything the KX3 had to pull them out of the noise. QSB was always nailing them on their call sign extension (WA1GWH). But, we finally completed the contact. Great fun as always. Thanks everyone. Richard
K4JPN - Tried 80M and 40M and could not hear or raise anyone. 20M was fairly noisy, but managed to work a few. 72, Steve K4JPN
W4DUK - Running 900 mW. Calling CQ didn't work, so resorted to search and pounce for all contacts. Another good time! 72/73 de Dave
KA8VZB - It's always amazing what 500mW and a piece of wire can do.
AB4QL - Rough band conditions.
KG4MTN - Very weak signals here in TN plus QRN made for tough copy! Still had a fun time!!
N5GW - KX3 @ 900mW. 20M was fair at the start, but after about half an hour I couldn't find anyone. Moving to 40M opened Pandora's box of QRN. Many weak sigs were right at the noise level. I tried moving back to 20M but was not able to complete a QSO with N3FCS due to QSB. So I slugged it out the final hour on 40M. Towards the end I listened on 80M - noise, yes; hams, no.
W5TVW - Started out on 20 meters with the IC-703 at a shade below a watt. Band was quiet but activity erratic. I gave up after too much "waiting" time and went to 40. Activity was sparse. Jumped back and forth for a while, even tried 80 meters and NO SIGNALS heard there! Less noise than 40. Oh well. Settled back down on 40 and went over to the FT-817 at a tad down from a watt according to all my measurements. Did better as receiver was more cooperative. That sounds odd, but it was better than the IC-703 on 40 for some reason. Had a flurry right at the end. Glad I stuck around until the end. Had a good time after all.
WI5H - 20 meters was the only band I could copy. Mid afternoon conditions had been so bad I had to go QRO to complete a few SKCC contacts on 20. I was pleased to make 10 NAQCC QRPp contacts tonight. Thanks to all for pulling me out and answering my calls. 72, Mike
W5WIL - 20m was quiet here, but worked both California and England from OK on a watt. 40 was full of static crashes due to the heavy storms, so signals were very hard to copy. Used my MTR radio with 4 LiIon AAs and regulator to keep at 5.2v, which was just enough to operate radio and keep me just under 1w. KK1 key. 72, Wil
KA5TJS - QRN on 40 was S9+ and 20 was up and down like a Yoyo. I heard a lot of signals but could not get a response. Dave finally heard me and I hope it got my info. The QSB was very bad. Fun event anyway and hope for better conditions next time. Allen KA5TJS
KE5YUM - Though I heard a lot of signals, I could never make contact. N1IX had a great signal, but I could not get through. 1/2 watt just could not make the trip. Better luck next time. All the best, Terry
KR5RR - ~1w RXTX SDR, 44' Doublet open wire w/ZM-2 tuner. Lots of 20m signals for first hour. S/W crash at 65 minutes. Recovered at 105 minutes, where'd everybody go? Hear only one station. QSY to 40m for two more hard earned QSO. Was fun, and far more challenging than a QRO 5w contest! Thanks Everyone & NAQCC for an interesting event. JB.kr5rr
KF7WNS - Really tough bands tonight. Signals faded so fast it was hard to make the exchange. Was happy to work John/AL7JK. I missed some of the regulars and met some new ones. Always fun to see what a few hundred milliwatts can do. 72, Gary
KF7Z - tough little sprint tonight, could not quite get N5GW but I tried, just wasn't to be with .95 watts. fun to work the QRPp stuff. This is the first time I have been able to pull any QSOs out of the mud so propagation must have been helping some. thanks for the Qs and see you next sprint. K-2 to a Dipole at 25 Ft. 72 Danny..
WB7EUX - I was adding the 2m transverter to the KX3 and did not wrap it up until 0200 UTC. One contact with Bill in Big Piney at 900mw. Rocking the planet from ne Oregon!
K7EW - First time QRPp Sprint. On 20, heard K9JWV (UT), on 40 heard KF7Z (WY) and WK6L (CA) all readable but couldn't reach them! Too bad, as that would've given me SKC mult of 4, so 64pts instead of my measly 4 - - wow! 20 min operating time. That was fun!
AL7JK - Heard several stations buried in the noise level here but just couldnt pull them out. KF7WNS, Gary's signal suddenly appeared out of nowhere and worked him before he vanished from Qsb. Thanks for the 2x milliwatt Qso Gary ! 72/73 to all ... de AL7JK John
N8XMS - I chased the whispers for about 50 minutes and managed 15 QSOs. I spent almost all of the time on 20 meters. I went to 40 a couple of times but there was a lot of QRN and I only had one QSO on that band. I made more contacts than in the regular sprint this month so I am very pleased!
K8AG - Very fun.
NF8M - Fun tonight running flea power. Some very good signals out there given the noise level and QRPP power levels. Would like to see power levels reported in the results so we can see just how good our little rigs are doing!
K8RJW - Heard many more calls than I expected. Only second time I worked the mW Sprint and this time was better than the first. I surprised myself. CUL, Bob
WB8LZG - Hello Milliwattmen! ( es women) Gud condx last night. I cranked the power down to 900 mw es jumped in! I had fair propagation to the east, es heard not a peep from out west. 20m was full of "right at the noise" signals. SRI to some of you ! I just couldn't pull out. 40m was ok , but hard to hear em there too. Had a gud time lighting up the either wid my 900mw tho. Es nice to work brother Charles W2SH, cuz I missed him in the regular sprint. See you all in the July Sprint, 73 Gregg
AB8FJ - K3/10 at 900mw to the Inverted L. Key used was my Lafayette Radio Electronics Bug from 1971 with a potato chip bag clip to help slow it down.
WB8ENE - Was rather tired after cutting the grass after work, but wanted to log at least one contact in the milliWatt sprint. Thanks Dennis, N1IMW. Rig is Elecraft K3 at 900mW, and key is Begali Blade. See you next time. 73, Art
W3HI - I was really looking forward to this sprint, my first mW sprint. Made my first contact, 599 both ways, then the lightning started flashing and I flipped the switch. CU next time! KX3 @ 900mW and Begali Spark key.
N8ZYA - Little time this evening and only worked for about an hour. Managed to work W2SH in New Jersey but no more. Heard several but too much noise from thunderstorms to make contacts.
AA9L - Didn't work the full two hours but had no trouble making contacts once I decided to call CQ. S&P did not work for me. Lot's of week signals I could not copy. Sorry. 73 Rich
K9EYT - 20 and 40 must have taken the night off HI Rig KX3 G5rv Bencher KEY, 73 Ray
W9ILF - Rig: MFJ 9040 at 700mw. What a great time using a older single band radio. I come back to this radio for a nice simple experience. I was amazed the signals I pulled out and worked. I'm sure their great, but you don't need a KX3 to work QRP and have fun!
K0ALN - What a fun evening!! I'm totally amazed at what 800mW can do!! Thought I'd get 2 or 3 max, but picked up N1IX (NH) for my 2nd points, and several more good distance contacts followed. Wish 20 would have held up longer, but 40 was amazingly not too noisy. Good thing it wasn't last night (terribly stormy)!! Heard a lot of stations. Thanks to all who made the effort. 72's
N0WKZ - Thanks to all stations I worked or attempted to work..
WD0K - Had trouble getting down to less than 1 watt. Finally got down to my old Kwd ts530s. Tnx to n1ix for my only ctk for the event. I cud here stations, but they couldn't hear me. Does this sound like a old story , or what? Good experience. 72's and have fun! Rich/wd0k
NO2D - Could barely hear John, K4BAI, and did not get his power. T-storms in the area at the beginning, so I only tuned in near the end of the contest. Could not hear anyone else on 40 well enough to make a contact. Heard some on 20 meters with my OHR-100, but that won't go down to less than a watt. Could not hear them on my K3. Same antenna. Odd. Pete, no2d.
VE2TH - Hi!all, nice to meet new one and old friends, condx were good, and thanks to all those good ears, was running 500 mW. My further distance were N5GW, MS and VE3EDX in Thunder Bay. All the very best to all, and see you again next time, 72 Michel
VE3FUJ - It started as a nice sprint, but at 0051 a heavy local QRM developed and after listening for about 5 min I gave in and quit I sounded like a noise maker the ones you swing at parties. Sorry to whoever was calling me at the time I just could not make you out. I thought I heard 2 stns N2--- and Wb---- thats all I heard. Brion 3011
VE3EDX - 900mw into vertical, very weak sigs and QSB but happy with 5 Q's. Tnx.
K4BAI - Couldn't get the output from the IC756Pro below 1.2 W as measured by my WM-2 QRP Watt Meter. So, this is a check log. 23 QSOs on 20m and 15 QSOs on 40M. 20M was good to the east coast and west only as far as IN. Was able to work as close as IN and NC. Special thanks to G3RSP for the QRP QSO. I got no answers on 20m from calling CQ with the beam west. Couldn't hear KF7Z in WY when he was working N8XMS. 40M had weak signals and a lot of QRN. Apologies to AB8FJ, whose number I couldn't pull out from the QRN. Reading Peter, NO2D's Soapbox leads me to believe he is a club member, but I didn't copy a member # from him, just his power of 500mW. Heard no Sprint activity on 80M and got no answers to CQs on that band. Thanks for all QSOs. I will be able to run 990 mW, as usual, when my FT1000MP is back from WA4GEG's repair shop. 73/72, John, K4BAI.
N1IX - This milliwatt sprint was much better and more active than I expected. Conditions in the north east were good. Normal summer QRN but not bad at all. 21 states/provinces best was KF7Z in WY on 40 meters. Also, N0WKZ in KS who was portable in a park. Thanks to my neighbor K1QO, Ann for three bands.
NQ2W - K1 at 900 mW to a 2-element mini beam at 25 ft and an inverted vee at 40 ft. Condx were up and down. 20 was short and later went long. 40 was pretty good but QRN and QRM were plentiful. Thanks to the NAQCC for another great mW sprint. C U down the log! Will, NQ2W
VE6BIR - Tough sledding @ 1 w, Set FT-817 pwr level to 1W, FWD PWR needle on ant tuner did not move off zero, but obviously a signal got out.
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See General Sprint Rules for rules common to every NAQCC sprint.
RULES specific to this month's sprint:
Operate at 999 mW or less to be eligible for any awards or prizes. Others welcome to participate and submit check logs.
Date and time:
Thursday, June 18, 2015 0030-0230Z
Note: We do not cross-check logs for our special milliwatt sprints. What you submit stands as your final score, so please check yourself for accuracy before submitting.
All entries must be RECEIVED before 2400Z on the Sunday following the sprint. So submit as soon as possible.
Preferred method of submitting your log and report is our on-line autologger.
VA3PEN Comments - We are wondering if we will hit 100 for the first time for a mW or 160M sprint. 100 would be fabulous for a special sprint. Please take a couple of minutes to submit your log if you have not done so yet :-)